Jeremy Vine tells Femi to ‘park’ masks on transport debate
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Jeremy Vine was joined by Femi Oluwole and Lucy Beresford on Monday’s panel and they were discussing “Freedom Day” and the changes to coronavirus restrictions in England. Barbara rang in to give her opinion and, as someone who was clinically vulnerable seeing the nightclubs open and people not wearing masks left her feeling unnerved. Femi gave his view but veered off-topic and it was Jeremy who pulled him back.
“I agree you to an extent of it, that does require a degree of personal choice; the granddaughter should make the decision to get a test to wait two weeks, that makes sense,” Femi began.
“But that’s about personal choice.
“If we’re talking about public transport there is no choice there – and there is a world where we keep talking about if you drop nightclubs you have to drop masks at the same time, there is a world where we allow nightclubs -”
Jeremy interrupted: “Let’s stay with it on mask wearing, let’s say we wear masks on public transport, park that one.
“Lucy’s right, isn’t she, the only thing that matters is where Barbara’s granddaughter has been, nothing else.”
“In that particular case -” Femi continued but Jeremy added: “Yes, so we can all have, the granddaughter can go to the nightclub, Barbara can be safe, everyone is happy!”
“And, the fact young people are being increasingly being prone to hospitalisations and developing long-Covid, that is what we are seeing now,” Femi explained.
“Especially as the more infections we see, even if it’s a small percentage of young people who are at risk, of that hospitalisation, scale up the numbers it then becomes a significant number of people going to hospital.”
It comes after Femi described Freedom Day as “a massive mistake”.
“Let’s be clear, we’re not in lockdown now,” Femi said. “Lockdown ended months ago.
“We’re talking about simple things, like masks and public transport, areas where people are trapped, sat next to people they don’t know for long periods of time, often in an enclosed space.”
“The masks are sort of still staying in public transport,” Jeremy argued.
“They’re really not,” Femi hit back. “I was on a train yesterday and there were people on there not wearing masks and that was when it was still illegal not to wear a mask.”
He also claimed with less people wearing masks, more “transmissions” of coronavirus will occur.
“We have to hope the cases don’t become deaths,” Jeremy said including Lucy into the discussion.
“We definitely do have to hope and that’s the point of being the Prime Minister,” Lucy said.
“You get all this information from scientists and economists, my worry is early on he [Boris Johnson] has only been listening to the scientists, he hasn’t been listening to the economists.
“You’ve got to be able to say that this country needs to go forward with a thriving economy and the only way you’re going to do that is if you start to open up.
“I think what’s happening now, it’s not so much about freedom it’s about personal responsibility,” she added.
Jeremy Vine airs weekdays at 9am on ITV.
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